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Using speedometer scales

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skodapilot
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Re: Using alternative scales

Post by skodapilot » 19 Feb 2017 00:09

I had to check list and found that I published version with unlocked speedometer which I use for myself test. This mistake was fixed in 1.0.3.2

PS This mode is worked just particularly. Yes, It allows change any data and even recalculate CRC value (always when You save file!). But there is a lot of misunderstanding places, so I disabled this feature

ushka
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Re: Using alternative scales

Post by ushka » 10 Mar 2017 00:03

Hi!
1.0.3.1 version was made for my tests with alternative scales and manual creation of it.
Purpose of this work was remaking miles clocks to kilometers clocks with reduced speed limit. For example, 160 km/h for Passat an 180 km/h for CC boards.
Remaping table values is simple: divide speed value to 1.603 to get speed in km on the same arrow position.
Here you can see the table and graph:
Image

I used 3C8 920 970 E panel for tests. It is 24C32, diesel, 180 miles. Scales from another dashboard with the same calibration.
Сlearly, i got flashing Error on mileage place due to speedometer control sum. But i went to natural test.


In collage bellow you can see, that Cruise is active on all photos. I check speed by:
-arrow on right dial;
-digital speedometer on the center;
-cruise control digital indicator;
-car speed on head device, got by CAN-bus;
-GPS data on head device.

My wheel is bigger, than factory recomendations, so usually i have no diffenece with GPS data and digital speedometer data (max 1-2 km/h) on regular 260-km/h board.

Test shows, that digital cruise speed, CAN speed and GPS data is the same. Digital speedometer data and arrow is the same too - due to changing main speedometer table on EEPROM. But on different ranges cruise and speed data are different:
-up to 30km/h speedometer date are smaller, than cruise and real speed;
-from 30km/h to 115km/h speedometer and cruise(real) speed is the same;
-from 115km/h speedometer data are smaller, than cruise and real speed.

So, even if you vin speedometer data control sum, you can not get correct speedometer without changing dashboard software. And getting correct work in km/h with miles dials is nearly imposible.

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Next my experiments would be reflashing miles dashboard with km/h flash and get it work with normal full speed limit (260\280). But it would be with Odis-E, not just VDO Editor.

Adam87
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by Adam87 » 11 Mar 2017 13:53

Would VCP also reflash it?


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skodapilot
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by skodapilot » 11 Mar 2017 14:55

Yes, of course. It's FRF file, that supported by VCP

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das_alphatier
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by das_alphatier » 11 Mar 2017 16:02

So did I get you right: If I want to get my Eos US Cluster (180 mp/h) to work with 280 km/h scale, the only working method is flashing?

skodapilot
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by skodapilot » 11 Mar 2017 16:52

das_alphatier wrote: 11 Mar 2017 16:02 So did I get you right: If I want to get my Eos US Cluster (180 mp/h) to work with 280 km/h scale, the only working method is flashing?
Swapping of scales is not the same as conversation of scales. If you swap scales using original dump, everything should work without reflashing. Additional info registered users could find here
Conversation is modification from 180 mph to 180 kmh keeping miles scale.

ushka
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by ushka » 23 Mar 2017 01:45

das_alphatier wrote: 11 Mar 2017 16:02 So did I get you right: If I want to get my Eos US Cluster (180 mp/h) to work with 280 km/h scale, the only working method is flashing?
VDO Editor is enougth. You need no reflash to swap scales and scale curves to existing factory values. This is tested by me on british miles dashboards and EEPROM with imported 260km/h curves and 260km/h scales. Also tested on the same dashboard with Golf 240 scales and curves.

So, reflashing is usefull only for converting from benzin to diesel if VDO Editor have no EPC/DEPC option for this EEPROM (24c32) to get working spiral of glow plug indicator.

Daku
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by Daku » 23 Feb 2018 21:10

Hello,

Is there some progress with Speed scale change e.h 180 MPH to 260 KPH ?
I found address with some dumps and mappack but after replace ori 180 MPH to 160 MPH error, 260 MPH error.

I know that CRC must be valid but how to calculate it ?

VDOEditor can do it ? Or progress of this stuff is paused ?

skodapilot
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by skodapilot » 04 Mar 2018 12:53

Daku wrote: 23 Feb 2018 21:10 Is there some progress with Speed scale change e.h 180 MPH to 260 KPH ?
This task is already solved by VDOeditor, due to existing scale could be used.
Daku wrote: 23 Feb 2018 21:10 I know that CRC must be valid but how to calculate it ?
VDOEditor can do it ? Or progress of this stuff is paused ?
I wrote about this for registered VDOeditor users here. Shortly, I found CRC algo (even more, this algo is already builded in vdoeditor), but problem is deeper, so further investigation was frozen.

petro_ionut
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Re: Using speedometer scales

Post by petro_ionut » 05 Jun 2018 21:05

Can i use VDOeditor for mph cluster to convert it to km, i have km dial to change?!

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